Goku w/Guru Unlock/No SSJ vs Freiza

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Goku w/Guru Unlock/No SSJ vs Freiza
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Kblo247	Sep 5 2013, 05:52 AM Post #16
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Necifix Sep 5 2013, 01:40 AM With Kaioken that makes it a bit murkier. I'm no master of numbers like you guys are but if he is using Kaioken x10 - x20 if he had to, he could most likely beat 50% Freeza. Past that, I am not sure. But I don't think he could take down 100% Freeza. Friezas pl was 120,000,000 max. Goku when he used Kaioken x20 was equal to his half power of 60,000,000. That means Goku was at 3Mil from the zenkai when he left the healing chamber. Any boost Guru gives him could put him near Frieza since kaioken is allowed. I mean you can argue Krillin got an initial 4-5 time boost since Vegeta notes that he's basically stronger than he was when he followed him back to Bulma to steal the ball. Gohan also could be argued he went from 1500 relaxed to 13-14k which is a 8-9x boost from the start since he's a mixed breed. If Goku got somewhere in the middle like a 6-7x boost initially (before he continues to get stronger over time like they did) hes at 18-21M. That means kaioken slaughters Frieza. It kinda puts him in the same league as the Goku we see fight Cooler



~~Dartlard~~	Sep 5 2013, 12:45 PM Post #17
Posts: 80 Group: Suspended Member #9,799 Joined: July 25, 2013 Favourite Anime DBZ	Goku would beat 100% Freeza because I have the guru unlock up to 90% of Goku's SSJ power. With Kaioken he would beat Mecha Freeza aswell Android 19/20.



Sam	Sep 5 2013, 12:56 PM Post #18
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	You make solid points, Kblo. Goku is also very good at focusing large bursts of power in single attacks, as Vegeta pointed out way back in the Saiyan saga. I can see why you think he could take down Freeza. It's definitely possible. Now, if he had Kikoho, Freeza would be zang'd to death.
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AA500	Sep 5 2013, 04:38 PM Post #19
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Thought we were talking about non Kaioken Goku, if the boost at least doubles his power he can pull something off with Kaioken, since Freeza would need his full power to endure Gokus assault. Freeza's drain from going full power would probably give Goku the win. Keep in mind this is only from hIs power doubling, I can see the boost being higher than that



Kblo247	Sep 6 2013, 01:24 AM Post #20
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Necifix Sep 5 2013, 12:56 PM You make solid points, Kblo. Goku is also very good at focusing large bursts of power in single attacks, as Vegeta pointed out way back in the Saiyan saga. I can see why you think he could take down Freeza. It's definitely possible. Now, if he had Kikoho, Freeza would be zang'd to death. Well I think Friezas crazy enough to try and tank a blast. He took so many head on that's why I think Goku would kill him with a kaioken Kamehameha. He's way too cocky for someone who can't sense power. He took blasts from them all head on



Goddess Ultimecia	Sep 6 2013, 12:09 PM Post #21
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	I'd probably put Goku's power at 7,000,000-8,000,000 max with the guru unlock. Then since he can use kaioken, he'd be able to slaughter Frieza with a kaioken x20.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Sep 6 2013, 10:45 PM Post #22
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	For me somewhat stronger than Frieza at he's 50% power,or maybe just a bit more but no more than this for me
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